Showing posts with label Anthony Mundine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Anthony Mundine. Show all posts

Thursday, February 2, 2017

Mundine-Green 2: 11 years on, but same old story




Normally on the eve of a big fight like Anthony Mundine-Danny Green I'd file a preview.

In it I'd pick the fight apart, highlighting areas I think it will be won and lost and then give a prediction.

This is very much the same, but probably harder to write. If you’ve followed this blog back since its inception, you know the names Mundine and Green feature significantly.

In fact, they permeate through it. Both have shaped my love for the fight game, which is ultimately why this blog exists.

I'm cornered for this fight, in that my prediction was made long ago. I always said they'd fight again. No one leaves good money on the table – especially not Mr Mundine and Green. 


Read through my previous blog posts on the pair and you'll find my thoughts haven't really changed.

But all those articles that discussed a future rematch came with a ready made prediction.

I've said for several years, Mundine would win , just like the first fight, because I feel he is a better boxer.

I can't really back away from that statement now.

That prediction wasn't made because I'm a 'Mundine super fan' as some on social media suggest, but more due to the fact I think 'The Man' just matches well stylistically.

Danny Green is what’s considered a ‘come forward’ fighter. They like to press the action, but as a consequence are pretty easy to find.

Mundine is the opposite. He uses range well. Gets punches off and then gets out of the way. Works well on the outside and his jab, is unbelievable.

He can score at will and frustrate you for 12 rounds- as he did to Green in their first fight.

Mundine has great footwork and great hand speed. He’s slowed a bit in his later years, but he’s still got some silky skills. He has good defence and solid head movement also.

But Mundine is his own worst enemy. He's lazy at times and he often says he struggles to get up for fights. A big fight, world titles, yet lacks motivation.

You just never know sometimes what you're going to get. That's the biggest factor with this fight.

He can get lazy in the ring as well. Mundine is often caught up against the ropes, in corners or just standing straight in front of a guy.

Joshua Clottey knocked him down five times because Mundine stood in front and didn’t use angles. Charles Hatley did similar.

If he stands in front of Green he'll get knocked out.

Markus Beyer was destroyed by Danny Green if their first fight in Germany doing exactly that.

But in the return fight Beyer boxed and was far too good. Speed, movement and angles have exposed Green in the past. 


To be fair though, Green has added a dimension as well since the pair last fought. 

Fighting against bigger cruiserweights forced him to box. His performance against Krystof Wlodarczyk (which ended in a savage KO) I consider the best of his career.

He out boxed a highly rated cruiserweight world champion and was winning comfortably. Until he made one mistake and paid for it! 

But I wasn’t impressed by Green in his last fight against Kane Watts. He looked sluggish and should really have handled the 34-year-old more comfortably than he did. 

The biggest factor people look at in this fight is the weight difference. I don’t see it as being that significant.

It’s something Mundine has encountered before as a super-middleweight. For example in his fight with Mikkel Kessler, the Danish star was able to rehydrate so he resembled more of a light-heavyweight. Having a similiar advantage to what Green will have.

He had a much bigger frame and far heavier punch than Mundine. It’s not ideal, but not necessarily insurmountable. Mundine prefers to be lighter anyway and his style is suited to it.

As long as he can absorb the heavier punch at the weight, it’s really all that matters. The main thing is he looks much healthier at this weight.

Mundine hasn’t really troubled anyone with his power in a while, but with a bit more weight behind him, you just never know. He used to throw a lovely check hook as a super middleweight and Green will have to watch its return. Mundine has caught many a guy coming forward with it.

Looking at recent fights in the fight game where guys have moved up in weight and the heavier guy has benefited. Andre Ward and Conor McGregor both struggled against bigger bodies and the pair do generally like to fight on the outside, like Mundine.

It remains to be seen whether Mundine-Green 2 follows that trend. But as I've always said, I think Mundine will win.

The 'experts' don't think so and the odds suggest punters don't either.

But I remember they all said the same before the first Mundine-Green fight as well.

I think it will be a very similar outcome, with Mundine bringing an identical game plan. Not much will change. Mundine will be looking to simply bank rounds and win over the distance – his jab dictating throughout.

It’s hard to really know what to expect in the fight game. Stories coming out of camps are always largely creative. You hear the clichés, ‘best camp ever’ and all that and we’ve heard similar stories in the lead up to this.

My prediction was made many years ago, but I’m standing by it.

The rivalry has dominated the sport in Australia over the last 15 years. As much has time has changed, both have stayed the same.

Polar opposites, two different styles, appealing to two different crowds.

Do they have a surprise up their sleeve? – Only time will tell.

Who knows, we may even see them throw down a third time.

PREDICTION: Mundine by decision 


Friday, October 30, 2015

Mundine v Green: Sliding Doors







Despite the fact that the continued debate around an Anthony Mundine-Danny Green rematch makes boxing purists in Australia cringe, the clash is still the biggest fight in the country.

It will happen eventually, and it’s what I’ve been saying ever since they squared off last time.

The rematch is a money fight. It captures the public’s interest, and it will do good business for all involved. 

Whether it goes above and beyond the first encounter, it’s hard to say, but given the experience of Mundine-Green in selling a fight, they’ll make enough noise to fill the seats.

When the fight will happen is the biggest unknown. It could happen as soon as early 2016 or it could be this time next year. 

It’s a true case of sliding doors, with one fighter’s movements directly affecting the other, and crucially in the sport of boxing, timing is everything.

In terms of how the fight will go – I still think Anthony Mundine is the winner. He’s just a better fighter, as was shown in the first fight.

That’s not to be disrespectful to Danny Green, because I think he has a better chance of winning the rematch than he ever did in the initial encounter.

Weight is the biggest obstacle to overcome. Mundine is currently fighting as a Junior Middleweight and Green is several weight classes away at Cruiserweight.

The light-heavyweight mark, or at least a catch weight around that territory, is the likely outcome the fighters will arrive at.

Green hasn’t seemed interested in getting near that mark mind you in his most recent comeback, and if he wants to place pressure on Mundine and seize control in their continued PR battle, hitting the light-heavyweight limit would be a good start.

Obviously Green will want to fight as heavy as possible, given the added weight favours him. He’s a bigger puncher and has the bigger frame, but it’s not the only way he’ll benefit.

The higher the weight class, the more Mundine will lose in speed - his biggest asset - as a consequence of carrying more. Sure he’ll probably bring increased punching power, going up in weight, but when was the last time The Man knocked someone out.

I also think Danny Green has become a better boxer since moving from the Super Middleweight division.

He was known for his come forward approach, and he would just go through guys - case in point, his first fight with Markus Beyer.

But moving up the weights, he didn’t have the advantage in power or size anymore. This has meant he’s had to pick his shots, go to the outside increasingly and he's become a better boxer and more rounded. 

His fight with Krystof Wlodarczyk is the best example of that, despite the way it ended.  

So I really think the pair are more closely matched now as fighters than they were in the first fight.

Anthony Mundine fights Charles Hatley on November 11, whilst Danny Green fights Konni Konrad on December 2.

If Mundine loses to Hatley, I think the next fight he signs is the Green rematch.

But the big fight that the Mundine camp will have their eye on will be the highly anticipated clash between Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez on November 22.

The Mundine camp are no doubt eyeing off the loser, with the winner likely to move on to either a mega fight with Gennady Golovkin or the ‘retired’ Floyd Mayweather.

Mundine’s camp has also said they’d be willing to jump in with Golovkin, as ridiculous as that sounds. But if Daniel Geale can score a fight with Golovkin, there’s no reason Mundine can’t deal his way into an opportunity.

Golovkin could even use such a fight to test the waters in the junior middleweight ranks, with the likelihood of both Cotto and Canelo making him come down in weight to face them. The Golovkin camp would see Mundine as a name fighter, who to them doesn’t really bring considerable risk at upsetting future plans.

*Cotto-Canelo fighting for Middleweight title, but will fight closer to Junior Middleweight as contracted. 

Many see hand speed and slickness as to the Golovkin kryptonite, and maybe that’s where Mundine fancies his chances. But I think people are mad to underestimate Golovkin’s boxing ability. Eastern European fighters are skilled in the fundamental elements of boxing – a good jab and tight defence – it’s why they are great Amateurs.
 Golovkin has superb head movement and when he makes you miss, he truly makes you pay.

So there are some potential options for Mundine, depending on how other fights go around him, but there are also cards for Danny Green to play.

I think Green is picking opponents to test himself, but not hamper his marketability.

Domestically he’s not short of people calling him out. Whilst there are some tasty fights there, Green knows a loss will hurt the appeal of the Mundine fight. So he’s not taking the risk, given the financial reward will be much less.

A potential fight with Sakio Bika would be worth watching, but that would only be a possibility if Mundine continued to drag his heels well into next year.

Interestingly though for Green, Roy Jones announced he’ll fight for the WBA Super World Cruiserweight Title against Enzo Maccarinelli in Moscow on December 12.

There’s money in a Jones-Green rematch and if it’s for a ‘World Title’, it’s even easier to sell. Roy Jones just may want some redemption after his KO defeat to Green back in 2009. It could soon loom on the radar, if the cards fall a particular way.

Mundine and Green will fight before they hang up the gloves, there’s no question of that. When it happens, well there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

It could all change at any moment. If you’re one of those people that wishes the column inches devoted to the match up would just end, well strap yourself in, because it’s only going to ramp up in the coming months.

Some will say it's time to move on, others will say it's time to throw down. 

Whatever our opinion, we'll all be watching, whether we like it or not. 

ADAM SANTAROSSA